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Yet Another Event Theory


There is a theorem in topology with the unglamorous name of The Hairy Ball Theorem. Essentially, what it says is that if a sphere is covered with lines that all go in the same direction (like combed hair) there must be a point where the lines run into each other.

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For this reason, there has to be a part on your head and there has to be some place on the earth where the wind does not blow.

Here is an interesting model of the universe. It assumes that the entire universe is an expanding sphere.

Cosmic Membrane Theory
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Now, suppose that the “material” of this sphere is some form of logic, like a computer program, and that the “lines” of logic must run parallel in a manner similar to the hair on a combed head. Somewhere on the sphere, there must be a place where this logic breaks down.

My theory is that the room and the objects represent the places where the logic breaks down. They cannot be changed because they are the placess where the logic is “immobile”. They have weird properties, because they are physical manifestations of conflicting lines of logic.

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Very ecellent theory sir. I do have to say that suits the lost room because it is where everything converged upon the logical items. and without logic things happen that do not conform to the way the rest of the lines go so they by thems self effect the flow of lines.

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To make it easier to talk about this, I suppose we may as well call the place where the lines come together a “vortex”.

If the vortex is not merely where the lines of logic come together in 3-D space, but also in 4-D space (with time as the 4th dimension), then there is no need to explain the event. All the lines of logic in the universe converge at the Sunshine Motel on May 4, 1961 at 1:20 PM. That makes Room 10 on May 4, 1961 at 1:20 PM the center of the universe!
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Haha very good and now Joe miller Killed the man that is part of the center of the universe. haha.

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Well, that’s an interesting problem. Since the vortex would be centered at that particular time and place, events leading up to it and leading away from it must somehow be extensions of it. Joe’s killing of Eddie and taking his place would be something like a crack in a piece of glass emanating from a major fracture. It would be twisted logic following its twisted logical course. The vortex may be centered at that time and place, but there is no reason to assume that the center is clean and simple.
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HaHa... I like it.. of course the likleyhood of this vortex existing where a motel room stood is near to impossible even if you just use the earth as the sphear. let alone the univerce.. but the lost field wouldn't have made good SciFi tv.. Or would it lol...

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That bothered me as well. However, it occurred to me that since the motel room is the center of the breakdown both in time and space, there is no issue of probability. The breakdown of logic at the exact location of the motel room would be an essential and immutable aspect of reality. It always has broken down there, it always will break down there, and that is that. Asking why it happened to be at the location of room 10 of the Sunshine Motel would be like Prince William asking why he just happened to be born heir to the thrown.
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My reply was very tounge in cheak. but i really like ur answer. Nice job backing up ur theorys. I can tell Im gonna like it on this site

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There is another far less existential possibility. Maybe we are confusing cause and effect. It may be that the motel room exists at the site of the breakdown precisely because it satisfies the requirements of the breakdown of logic at that exact point. Perhaps an enclosed room with certain kinds of objects and certain kinds of properties is the only thing that makes the fracture work. This is similar to a planet being at the center of a gravitational well. The planet does not just happen to be at the center of the well, it is required to be there.

And never hesitate to rock the boat. Our greatest foe is complacency, not mayhem.

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I like this. I always wondered if too many were taking certain things for granted (the fact that something specific had gone wrong, for example) to make the Event, but I didn't think of this.

Most of our theories have generally been Story Theories or Accident Theories (nobody here seems to honestly believe God Theories, as many in the show do), but this postulates the room is part of a normal property of reality, and doesn't need a 'cause.'

It may be just a 3-D representation of a set of properties which are incredibly unlikely but not actually impossible. The universe IS supposed to be infinite, correct?

But what accounts for the Motive Effects some items (like the quarter) demonstrate. With these items, you have to think or wish specific things. Doesn't this indicate an influence on other "standard" areas of creation normally affected by vanilla Hawking/Einstein varieties of physics?
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