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Registered: 11-2007
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posticon Conservation/Persistence of Objects


Everyone has come to know that objects can not be destroyed outside the room. Only the occupant has said there is "conservation of objects". How does he know? Did the occupant destroy an object only to see it replaced? How many items has he done this to? Is this why there is such a strange collection of objects that we know of (have objects already been replaced)? How can an object be replaced with a new object that was not part of the original event (can we switch the old tv for a new one)?

How do we not know that there is Persistence of Objects? Maybe the objects can not be destroyed IN the room either? In which case, the original occupant, is STILL the occupant, and not dead. Note that the show never let us see him die. Perhaps the occupant already tried suicide in the room (knowing he can't be destroyed outside the room) but it did not work on himself which is why he had Miller try to kill him in hopes that "conservation of objects" would work.
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Toober,
First and foremost, welcome to The Collectors. I hope you'll step into the Motel Room and introduce yourself so we can all give you a proper greeting.

As for the conservation theory. I believe the Life Magazine is a good example of this. It's dated July (2 months after the event) which seems to imply that the original was destroyed inside the room to be replaced by a later issue.

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I agree with Paul. It seems that Joe had an opportunity to witness this type of transformation. However this is not essential. Operators of objects seem to have an instinctive sense of what they are capable of.

The key to understanding the conservation of objects and how objects trade places is to realize that the objects are somehow endowed with a function of semantics. The best example of this is the way the scissors seem to understand what the operator wants to rotate and how the operator wants it rotated.

My theory is that the objects are composed of matter that differs fundamentally from the matter in our usual experience. When an object is destroyed, the matter in it somehow trades places with the matter in some other object. However, this is not a random process. Just as objects have a sense of the meaning imparted by their operators, they also have a sense of the form and function of other objects. Hence, a Life magazine will automatically trade places with the next available object that is semantically similar.
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Registered: 12-2007
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I agree as well. The proof of this theory would lie in something that would make a good test: if you took the Polaroid back to the current-world Room 10 location, I hypothesize you could now see Joe instead of Eddie.

This also would enable the Polaroid holder to maintain an inventory and relative map of Objects, whatever aspect they currently inhabit, and that the Objects 'recognize' each other, no matter what form each currently wears.

This also brings up another area of inquiry: can one 'create' new objects by disassembling/destroying them in the room? Or, other that indestructibility, would there be no value-added as a result of breaking an object down? We don't have an authorized answer either way, but I would suggest that without information to the contrary each object operates as a unified whole, and that you would NOT get a new fabulous superpower from each nut and bolt inside the radio, should you choose to disassemble it inside the room.
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