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The Conroy Experiment is beyond a doubt one of my favorite aspects of the show. The idea that someone actually tried to open the door “the right way” has always made me wonder what lies within that light. I've formed various theories and notes over the years that I just wanted to share/post/insanely rave here. Bare with me if this all seems familiar but I've got a feeling that with the coming Season Two that we haven't heard the end of the Conroy Experiment.

First, its important to understand what Objects were present during the two Conroy Experiments not only attached to the door, but also physically present near the opening (or breach).

The First Conroy utilized the Clock (which sublimates Manganese/Brass), the Nail Clippers, the Cigarettes, the Toothbrush, and the Ashtray. These five Objects were attached to the door of Room 9 directly.

Next, Conroy used the Key to open the door before she opened the Watchbox. It was only when the Watchbox was opened that all hell appeared to break loose.

Now according to Conroy's husband we know that the Watchbox was one of the last Objects that the Collectors found before the Experiment. This means that the photo of the Collectors in the diner (provided by Jess) with the Watchbox, Clock, Flashlight, and (perhaps) the Transistor Radio must have been taken sometime just before the actual experiment itself.

We can infer then that the seven Objects used in the First Conroy (Clock, Nail Clippers, Cigarettes, Toothbrush, Ashtray, Key, Watchbox) may not have been the only Objects present at the time. While we don't know how close an Object has to be to another Object for them to affect each other we can assume that it may involve some distance due to the Object's innate ability to attract each other.

The Second Conroy used the five door Objects and the Key but did not use the Watchbox. Kreutzfeld mentions in the original script that Conroy “got the last Object wrong” in this case the Watchbox. Repeating the Experiment, Kreutzfeld utilizes the Glass Eye instead to some interesting results.

However the Glass Eye isn't the only new addition. Remember that Kreutzfeld still has the Quarter in his system, and may have brought the Flask and his old Cufflink back too, and any other number of Objects from the Vault or his own collection.

In both Experiments the Occupant also manages to be present at the time as well.

So while it seems that the five door Objects and the Key open some sort of breach in space/time, how that breach reacts depends on the other Objects that are present at the moment. So far we have yet to see how the opening would react to a controlled version of the Experiment (the five Objects and the Key alone with no other Object interference).

Long and a little rambling but again the Conroy Experiment was one of my favorite aspects from the show. What lies beyond the breach is still a mystery (another universe, the Event itself, God) but one well worth pondering.
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Yes, extra objects, definitely.

Do you think we've seen the last of Kreutzfeld ?



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If Conroy could exist in a perpetual state of decay within a weird otherspace, then I think Kreutzfeld can too.

Hmm, we know that the Occupant retrieved the Objects attached to the door, but what about the Glass Eye and the Quarter?

Might be a helpful Object to have if your stuck in otherspace.
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Hah, left one Object out of the Second Conroy Experiment: the Wedding Photo (with Joe).
Seriously though, what could a Wedding Photo do?
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quote:

what could a Wedding Photo do?




Helps you find the one you love? wife, son, brother, etc.

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Well, we know the Objects have diverse powers, they might not have anything to do with what the item is.

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Well, we know the Objects have diverse powers, they might not have anything to do with what the item is.




Yes, but appearances are that he found his son. Something worked.

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It could have been an effect of the Quarter though.
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we have some time frames to syn concerning Karl's little experiment. When Joe and Karl get to the prison the sun is high in the sky. Later an exterior shot of the prison shows early morning lighting. That is when Karl loots the vault and abandon Joe to an unnice end and returns to PA. Joe bus tickets himself to Gallup. Once again sun is high in sky [check shadows on road and the old house] He and Wally drive to Willowbrook mid to late day. They get to Sood's at dusk [note cars have their headlights on] At about 10 pm Joe leaves with Monty's car. He must sleep and drive from L V to outside of Phoenix Az. That gives us a good 24 hours plus, about the time Karl cuts his eye open. Joe and Ed drive to Gallup maybe about 12 maybe 1mp.

Now if Karl is remotely regular the quarter has passed through, but first he has a last exchange with his memory son and after popping the glass eye in. I would think sending a quarter through your lower GI would be very painful and timing that with a object that heals all fresh would be a part of your planed event.

since the powers of objects are not present in the room, we are left with the question do the effects of the object are they also not present. Would a memory of the Son started outside the room suddenly dissipate within the room. Karl has very little knowledge of the room, I do not believe he would do anything risky like trying to bring the Son with. Further would he risk adding element to the experiment other that the eye.

It seems for the quarter to work you have to be thinking about the memory of who you want. Karl did not have time to focus on his Son because he was busy killing his right hand man. So why does Son suddenly show up.

If the son is to become a real boy somehow the memory would need to be infused with much not present in the memory. As good as the objects are only the pencil seems to transmute metal. And that might not be the case, the pencil could be grabbing them and transporting them Occum Razor, or change the first and second laws of thermal dynamics. I don't believe the objects can create.

So here is the weird possibility. The Room knew. The time Karl was in it would be full of thoughts centered on his son and a plan how to get him back. Maybe the Room agreed with the plan. Or maybe the Room needed Karl and the son was just the bait.

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So the Room OMNOMNOM'ed Karl for its own purposes?
That's just...creepy.

I still wonder if the Glass Eye might function to keep Karl alive through the whole process. Perhaps that was what the Room was waiting for then, someone with the right Object that would have them survive the process or perhaps the journey.

The Glass Eye as a spacesuit of sorts seems like a pretty neat idea.
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