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Rambling Theories (Eddie, Event, Wally, Objects)


First and foremost, today I am not feeling all too well and took some meds to chill out. I’m in a rambling mode, so forgive me if (1) I don’t make any sense, (2) repeat anything that’s been said over and over again, (3) simply not getting something right, and etc. I’m simply rambling about my thoughts about the show… not the script with deleted scenes and alternate scenes.

It’s kind of obvious that Joe wasn’t erased from reality when he became an object because he didn’t become an object during an “Event”. Somehow, the universe (be whatever that is exactly; god, physics, or something) decided to rip Sunshine Motel’s Room 10 and the objects in it out of this reality and into another one. I strongly believe that Eddie was “at the wrong place at the wrong time” when he was ripped from reality.

Personally, if I were to theorize on what the objects were I wouldn’t take the religious approach. To me it was presented that The Order were the “bad” kind of religion and wrong with what they were believing in. I think it would send a bad message to the viewers and the fans if The Order and Rupert were right the whole time. They were the villains of the story, willing to kill honest and good people just to retrieve an object with special powers in this reality for their own personal gain.

So, I read an interesting theory on here that made sense to me. I’d link you, but I lost my connection just now for a moment, and I don’t want to go through all the 15 pages on here to re-find it. But the thread was started by DaveIII. It was theory that made sense to me in respect to a television show and not complicated where the average viewer would be too emoticon if explained. He said that the Event was the universe basically “righting itself from a wrong”. Eddie was a just a casualty who happened to be there when the universe ripped the room from existence.

Makes me think of Wally when he asked Joe if he thought there was something wrong with the universe and answered Joe that there was in fact something wrong.

For the purpose of making a television show based on this, there had to be a human object. Wouldn’t be the same if it were a cat, a dog, or just nonliving objects. How would the objects get out of their element if there wasn’t someone to take them out? Since the theory is that the universe just can’t literally erase something, these objects are places in another “reality”. Since Eddie was alive and the universe didn’t kill him, he was able to leave the room out of it’s element, into this reality, and basically be immortal/indestructible. Because he doesn’t belong in this reality and neither do the objects.

As Eddie said “it just happened,” when Joe asked him about how the objects were created, this leads me to think that Eddie knows why it happened… at least possibly know something along those lines. The how is simple, they were ripped from reality. The why isn’t exactly explained. If there is a who ripped them, it’s either the universe or some “higher power”.

But picture yourself as Eddie in 1961 right after the Event. You know something happened, sometime unexplainable. Myself, as Eddie, would be in denial at first. Still existing and able to go into reality. I’m staying in a motel room, so I would first leave the room (with very little objects on me, including the key). Go to checkout, talk to Arlene. When she doesn’t recognize me or the fact I’m staying in a room 10 when there is no room 10, I would go back into the room (either using the key or leaving the door open from where I exited).

Then I would take some of my belongings and head back to Willowbrook, because my wife is there and should know who I am. Well, she doesn’t and it baffles me. There was obviously a scene big enough to make a story about. Once I would give up on having Mable remember me, I would give her the photograph because it means something in a sentimental sense. I would go back to the room, because for some reason out of my element of the room it’s nerve-wrecking.

I would stay there for years, going out into reality as little as often. I would testing out these now called objects with their powers, because at some point I would have discovered that out of the room (out of their element) they wouldn’t be the same objects as they are in the room. Hence why there’s a later date magazine, because I would have destroyed another object in the room (maybe another magazine or my driver license because I don’t exist anymore) making this magazine a new object.

I would have gone through a depression and anger, resenting the room and the objects for ruining my life. Most likely resulting in tossing out most of the objects (including the clothes on my back and wearing something else), because I wouldn’t care if others found them. Let them ruin their lives because I don’t exist, not my problem… so to speak.

So when the Conroy Experiment happens, she is disturbing me and the rift between realities. So, I drag her in to stop it. After that, I can’t stand this room and I decide that living in the room isn’t enough because the room is an object and the objects are drawn to it. So, I head out, go to another town, check into the institute there. And there I remain, repelling other objects from finding me because I don’t want a part of that anymore.

I can’t kill myself out of the element of the room, most of the people who find the objects are selfish people who use the objects for personal gain, and that never ends well. Until years later when a man named Joe finds me. He had the photo I had given to my wife, so I let him through in hopes that it was her. It wasn’t, but this man Joe is different from other object collectors. He hates the objects, they took away his daughter and all he wants is her back. I don’t want live anymore, he wants his daughter back. So, it’s a way to help each other out. Since I am a living object and once Joe becomes the new object that can take my place, he will understand fully about it all.

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to be continued...

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…Next part, why the objects want to be back together…

Some of my biggest questions since Wally said that the objects want to be found, are why do they want to be found and what would happen if all the objects are back in their element (aka the room)?

Going on the theory that the universe is just correcting its wrongs, I personally think that once all the objects are in the room nothing will happen. All of the objects were in the room right after the Event, that is until Eddie stepped out of it. So it wasn’t until Eddie left the room that all this paranormal phenomena started to happen.

But that said, there’s another theory question that comes to mind. Let’s talk in past tense where Eddie is still an object. This just to prevent debate about that happened when Joe became the new object.

What would have happened if Eddie killed himself in the room with all the objects still inside? Would another Event happen somewhere else? Or would nothing happen? Because if the universe is correcting itself (balancing itself), Eddie is merely in his element as is, as a human. He’s not in this reality where he doesn’t technically belong. If he dies, then there is no real reason to create another Event with another living object, because the universe already corrected itself.

…Next part, where would the key be if it really was reset in the room…

Personally I think Eddie had the key on him when the Event occurred. So when if the key were left in the room and the door closed (without reopening), it would drop to the floor because where it was originally was on Eddie. Without Eddie there, it would merely be in midair during the reset if Eddie wasn’t there for it. Once the door is reopened, it would drop to the floor. Seems simple enough.

…Next part, my favorite character, Wall…

There isn’t much information revealed about Wally in the series. We know that he was once an object collector or he was curious about them. This is because he has answers when Joe asked him, even if he doesn’t answer them directly.

It was clear to me that Wally lost a lot in the past because of the objects. To theorize, I would imagine that he lost loved ones and regrets ever getting involved with the objects in the first place. But since he is drawn to the objects and can’t shake it, he keeps the bust ticket. Probably because it’s best suited for his personality and daily life… and it’s a hard object to lose if someone were trying to take it away from him.

Since he does have answers, I bet he investigated the origin of the objects getting further along than most people have. But since the objects ruined his life, he quit. No, he didn’t know about room 9 with Arlene, but who’s to say that he didn’t know about other things. He was clear when he explained to Joe that the objects were ripped from reality and now there is still something wrong with the universe. He hated that Joe (because he knew Joe was a good guy) was digging in deeper with the objects and that always has consequences.

Remember his reaction with Joe when Joe told him he saw the Occupant? Either Wally got that far in his obsessed investigation with the objects… or maybe he’s related to one of the original Collector members. It would certainly explain why he was the comic relief of the show and he was able to present such answers to Joe (and his expressions with Joe). Or I could be wrong.

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Are there any plot holes in my rambling? Just in case I missed something in the show that was relevant to my ramblings.

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Re: Rambling Theories (Eddie, Event, Wally, Objects)


Whoa! It will take me a bit to get through this.

Don't worry if you say something that has been said before. We have been hard at this for over three years now. You just made me realize we overlooked our forum anniversary.
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quote:

Spikosauropod wrote:

Whoa! It will take me a bit to get through this.

Don't worry if you say something that has been said before. We have been hard at this for over three years now. You just made me realize we overlooked our forum anniversary.


Lol! Yah, I tend to type a lot when I'm sleep deprived and/or ill. I re-read what I typed and I laughed at a couple things I mentioned.

Plus, I think I have loop holes with my Wally stuff. For some reason I just want him to have more depth than what the show presented with him... cause he was my favorite character and all.

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Yes Gypsy, you are at the very edge of the break-through.

Chris, Paul and Laura have already confirmed major parts of the theory:

    
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    CL: The Event could have happened to anyone, anywhere, anytime. But it happened to Eddie in Room 10. I would liken it to accidentally detonating a nuclear bomb you discover under your bed. It is partly your fault -- it could not have exploded without you -- but it makes you more unlucky than special.



So you were right on spot on that one, saying Eddie just stumbled on the Event.

It has been stated "there are many Rooms" and it has been confirmed by Chris, which has lead us to theorize with parallel universes and the likes.

The latest scientific magazine in my country just covered a new study upon our world not being just 3D but actually 9D!!

Which would be fun coinsidence with the fact only 9 rooms were left emoticon So basing on the 9-dimensions theory, I´d say there are 9 Earths, 9 Room 10's etc.


We have also theorized on the what was Eddie doing during and afterwards the Event, and have come to similar conclutions you did, none of them have been confirmed by the Creators, though.

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Careful about those 9 dimensions, though. There are theories about multiple universes, but I'm pretty sure they're only tenuously linked to the dimension theories. If parallel universes do exist, current science/philosophy tells us that there would likely be an infinite number of them. like in Stargate. God, that was an embarrassing reference.
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Well, if TIME is a dimension, then lost room object power is likely a dimension. Which is to say, Eddie did something to create a new level of dimensionallity, but only for the room 10 objects. So normal objects exist in 9 dimensions and room 10 objects exist in 10 dimensions. The extra dimension containing and defining it unique object power.

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Cattrina wrote:

Yes Gypsy, you are at the very edge of the break-through.

Chris, Paul and Laura have already confirmed major parts of the theory:

    
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    CL: The Event could have happened to anyone, anywhere, anytime. But it happened to Eddie in Room 10. I would liken it to accidentally detonating a nuclear bomb you discover under your bed. It is partly your fault -- it could not have exploded without you -- but it makes you more unlucky than special.



So you were right on spot on that one, saying Eddie just stumbled on the Event.

It has been stated "there are many Rooms" and it has been confirmed by Chris, which has lead us to theorize with parallel universes and the likes.

The latest scientific magazine in my country just covered a new study upon our world not being just 3D but actually 9D!!

Which would be fun coinsidence with the fact only 9 rooms were left emoticon So basing on the 9-dimensions theory, I´d say there are 9 Earths, 9 Room 10's etc.


We have also theorized on the what was Eddie doing during and afterwards the Event, and have come to similar conclutions you did, none of them have been confirmed by the Creators, though.


Thank-you for that. and for the other post in my polaroid thread. I don't know how I missed that info. I'll have to check up on that.

It's great that you mentioned this 9D theory with the magazine you in your country. Because DC comics (if you saw the The Justice League: Crisis on Two-Earths you would know what I'm taking about easier)... has this theory about multiple realities.

It's basically that Earth-Prime was the very first Earth dimension and that any time someone makes a decision, another Earth-dimension is created resulting a dimension on what it would have been like if the person chose another path. So there are would be a kind of infinite number of Earth dimensions, until Earth-Prime is destroyed that is. Because without the original, there's no alternates to copy from. If that made sense.

Personally, I don't know how I could relate it to The Lost Room, but I thought it was cool with all this dimension-talk. ^_^

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