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A twist on the Event theory


My girlfriend and I were talking last night and we got a little stuck at the part where the Occupant stops the Conroy experiment. Shouldn't Eddie have been out at that point? Not necessarily.

What if Eddie's in the room when the event takes place?
He opens the door and it's Disneyland. He closes and re-opens it and it's Abu Dhabi, etc. He doesn't know what's happened, but he begins to experiment. He starts to learn the rules of the room and the reset. While he's there, he does some research to determine what's going on. He goes out and buys a newspaper and a Life magazine (remember how the mag is dated July 1961 when the event takes place in May?) Maybe Eddie was hold up the room for several months trying to figure out what was happening.

At some point, most of the Objects including the key find their way out of the room (maybe Eddie became aware of the buzzing and starting tossing things out)

Was Eddie trapped in the room or in a limbo like Barbara Conroy?
We believe Eddie became trapped. Perhaps he ran back into the room and closed the door with the key still in the lock. He remains trapped in there until the Conroy's find the key, open the door, discover a few Objects in this previously non-existant room 10, begin collecting and finally open the door. Jennifer says that it was the Occupant who stopped the Conroy experiement. Maybe when the door opened he had a chance to escape and Barbara took his place, hence his understanding of conservation of Objects and the "burden". He exits the room, through the door (which is why nobody sees him exit) into Willowbrook and appears before Mabel who thinks he's crazy and has him locked up, losing the last remaining Objects in the process.

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Forgive my insolence Oh reverend Apostle of the objects. Now the hard questions come:

The only problem I have with your theory about the magazine is that it was an object. It seems like it must have been present during the event. However, there is a way to repair your theory. Maybe the magazine that was in the room during the event got damaged somehow while it was in the room. It might have caught fire or Eddie might have destroyed it deliberately to see what would happen. We don’t know how far away the replacement object can be or if it has to be in the room. Maybe Eddie destroyed the magazine that had originally been in the room and thought he was done with it. Then, just like you have described, he bought a magazine off a shelf only to discover that the magazine he bought had become an object. This might be how Eddie learned about conservation of objects.

Objects don’t work in the room. If Eddie is an example, they also are vulnerable in the room. Would they still “buzz” in the room? Eddie said that he could only find relief from the buzzing when he was in the room, yet there were many objects in the room at the time when he said this (your own observation about the second Conroy experiment).

If Barbara Conroy took Eddie’s place, did she become an object? Did Eddie cease at that point to be an object? If Eddie ceased to be an object until Barbara Conroy was released, why didn’t he age? Or do you mean that she only took over the burden of occupying the room. Does someone always have to be in the room?

The Conroy experiment is difficult to account for. Somehow or other, Eddie was on the other side of the door without the key. Maybe your earlier observation in reference to the second Conroy experiment contains a clue. The objects disappeared from the door and were back in the room, neatly arranged on the dresser, then they were gone again. Perhaps Eddie got into the room the same way the objects got out. Maybe he simply blinked into the room from wherever he was at the time. I can’t shake the notion that Eddie had become something like a sentinel whose job it was to protect reality from such tampering. If he isn’t handy to prevent it, perhaps he is blinked to the necessary location.
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Re the magazine
I see four possibilities about the magazine.
1. For some reason Life published it's July 7th edition in May.
2. It was a replacement Object after Eddie destroyed or lost another Object.
3. Eddie was a time traveler.
4. It was a production error.

Re the buzzing
They probably wouldn't buzz in the room, but when Eddie stepped outside with his glass eye, eye glasses, clothes, etc. he may have become aware of it.

Re Barbara
If Barbara took Eddie's place it wasn't in the room. She seemed to be trapped in a different place than Anna was. Perhaps because she entered while reality was broken and was trapped in a limbo state. Eddie may have been in this same state but survived to escape because he wasn't in it as long as she was.

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Magazines arrive on the newstands one to two months before their cover date. Go to any newstand in September and you will see dates for October and, in some cases, November. This was even more true in the past than now due to slower distribution times.

We may want to research printing dates for Life magazine in the 1960s.
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I have one point to make. Ever notice that when you buy a magazine in say May, the magazine says it's June's issue? This may be the case with the magazine. But I've been wrong before.
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My other magazine theory is that maybe while Eddie was figuring out the room and the Objects he destroyed the first magazine object in the room and this is simply the replacement.
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I think the idea that the July issue came out in May is plausible. Anyone know any way to check that?

If it is true than kudos to the prop guys for including that detail.

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I hate to always be the wet blanket on this stuff, but it is ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE that a July 7 issue of a weekly magazine came out on or before May 4.

Also, one article (pp 31-37) describes the events of a medical convention that took place in June:

AMA Medical Convention

I must admit that I never realized what a “fluffy” magazine Life was. It would be worthless to a historian. It should not have been so difficult to establish the date of this convention.

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Hmm. Ok, then it either was a mistake by the prop guys or a well hidden clue.

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I really think it was a well hidden clue. Look how easy it is to find a Life magazine of any date from that period. There are always several listed on eBay. The prop people didn’t need to use the wrong issue. Moreover, there is a ready explanation: magazines are easy to destroy and it is very reasonable that the original magazine might have been destroyed while in the room.

Has anyone attempted to acquire the Life magazine that would have been current? Who knows, maybe it has the real clues we are looking for!

I think I will look into it.
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