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Um... not quite tracking that... you mean they suck reality into them? Less Time/Space as a proper singularity does, and more... I dunno, Threads of Destiny, for lack of a better term?

Plausable... though why do Object Losers remember having lost their items? Why do Sood and Suzie Kang seem to be able to build thriving practices out of tracking and selling information about the Objects? Also, can we be sure the Gummint doesn't know? It could be the Objects never crossed the desk of a counterpart to Mulder, and were either unrecognized by the appreciative or ignored by the unconcerned. Admitedly, the Watch or the Umbrella have limited military application. ^_~ Maybe the Mulder did find an Object and became Legion or part of the Order.

I'm not trying to shoot you down, Devil's Advocate is a role that comes to me a little too easy. ^_^
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Since I am proposing something like a scientific model, I expect nothing but the most critical peer review.

Actually, I have a whole theory. Here it goes:
 
The basis of all of our mathematics is rationality. This is the basis, also, of most of our science. Rationality is essentially Aristotelian logic with its three assumptions:

1. A proposition is either true or false.
2. A proposition cannot be both true and false.
3. The truth value of a proposition cannot change.

Mathematical proof would be impossible without these assumptions.

However, we have no guarantee that these are more than local properties. It might be that the universe beyond measurable space is irrational. It is important to understand that irrationality is not the same as entropy or randomness. It is the absence of the three laws described above.

Perhaps one of the most irrational things ever to occur in the larger universe was the creation of our space (what we call the universe). Yet, here it is with its ability to support life and its accompanying conscious sentient beings. The most irrational thing about our universe, at least according to my theory, is that the whole thing, for its relatively limited expanse, is apparently completely rational.

However, that is not quite true. When the Big Bang occurred—a massive explosion of rationality—along with it was included a tiny class of particles which I call psychotrons. Psychotrons have a rational part and an irrational part.

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They are sort of like complex numbers, except that instead of having a real part and an imaginary part they have a rational part that anchors them in our reality, and an irrational part that is more like their natural state.

Psychotrons create around them a mathematically precise field of irrationality that decreases inversely with the square of distance (like gravity). This field of irrationality draws in other irrationality, especially other psychotrons, and consequently pushes out rationality.

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The first instance of psychotrons being drawn together was the creation of our own universe with all its requisite rationality (more on that later). The second instance of them being drawn together was the creation of our world with its one orbital moon and its stable life supporting conditions. With time, the psychotrons that found their way to our planet also found their way together so that they were forged into scissors, printed as magazines, and molded into soap, toothbrushes, etc. Some of them also wound up in cans of paint that were used to paint the walls of an unfortunate room 10 in an out of the way motel in Gallup New Mexico.

Because psychotrons create a field of irrationality, they make it unlikely that they will come under rational scrutiny. Even if that happens, they quickly dissolve whatever rationality leads to their rational observation so that their existence simply is not believed by any rational cohesive structure like a government or a scientific community. Again, it is important to understand that they do not create a field of entropy. They do not make anyone forget. They just make it impossible to come near them in the form of an Aristotelian structure.

The event did not create the objects. The objects created the event. When the room was painted with irrational paint, it was primed to achieve critical irrationality. Then, just like a projectile carrying a radioactive isotope, Eddie walked into the room with his suitcase full of irrational objects.

However, psychotrons are their own worst enemy. While, on the one hand, they create fields of irrationality that draw them together, these same fields cause more and more irrational things to happen. After Eddie went into the room and critical irrationality was achieved, the room was, quite irrationally, blinked out of existence across the spectrum of space and time and Eddie was allowed to walk out with his suitcase full of irrational objects.

The question is: how did Eddie become an object? Maybe, as he was taking a shower, the last irrational particles came in through the shower water and replaced the water in his body. By that time, the irrationality was so strong that the particles just jumped from one location to another and became Eddie.

Irrational objects are singularities of irrationality. The concentration of irrationality in them is so strong that they cannot be pulled apart and they behave in very irrational ways. Again, it is important to understand that their behavior is not random, it is irrational. Hence the scissors do something completely ridiculous, yet they do exactly the same thing every time. Nor is there any pattern across objects. Some of them do something that makes sense, like open a door, and others do something that makes no sense whatsoever, like manufacturing brand new 1961 pennies.


I have to get back to the issue of how the particles created the universe. My hypothesis is that the particles were created first and it was their rationality, not their irrationality, that created our universe. Hence, they created a rational universe but one that is only rational in a very relative sense since before the universe there was no such thing as rationality. If understood correctly, my theory does not say that there is anything “correct” about the state of our universe, only that it is consistent.

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Well…since I’ve gotten away with this so far, I would like to expand on and tighten up my theory.

It seems, though I can’t exactly make an argument for why, that the event should have occurred fairly rapidly—even instantaneously—after the conditions were right. For this reason I have been giving some thought to how the psychotrons that satisfied the critical irrationality requirement got into the room. Perhaps, after Eddie entered the room with his suitcase full of irrational objects and a sufficient number of psychotron based water molecules replaced the water in his body, one more thing happened. For no reason at all, a person walking by the front of the motel room as Eddie was gazing out the window decided to take a Polaroid through the window at Eddie. Unknown to the hapless passerby, the photons in his flash contained the final psychotrons that were needed to achieve critical irrationality. The photons literally bathed the primed room with the final psychotrons quickly enough so that critical irrationality could be achieved without something else going wrong. The bridge between the film and the now critical room caused the film to be saturated with psychotrons thus transforming the film into an object as well.

Another thing that bothers me is why the objects seem to be absolutely irrational right up to their surface but not beyond. This can be explained with quantum principles. Apparently, irrationality is quantized so that it can only increase or decrease in discrete increments. Therefore, there can be no smooth change from the level of irrationality in the object and the level of irrationality without. The object is absolutely irrational, but the space just beyond its surface is only about 30% or less irrational.

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This also explains what is meant by critical irrationality. When enough of the objects are brought close enough together, they are able, collectively, to generate a strong enough field so that a space of complete irrationality is formed outside of their volumes. This, of course, is what happened in Room 10 when it was bathed in irrational light.

The objects were apparently dormant until Eddie carried them into the room. This is fairly simple to explain. It should be noted that almost none of the objects work unless they are in the hands of an operator who knows what they are supposed to do. For example, the scissors do not work unless an operator points them at something and makes a conscious decision to rotate it. Before the event, it just never occurred to anyone to use the objects in the way that later operators did. Since most of the objects were formed in the 50’s they did not have to remain dormant for very long.

A little more about psychotrons. The irrational part of every psychotron is essentially the same. However, the rational part corresponds to some real world particle. Thus, an electron can have a rational electron part and an irrational part; a photon can have a rational photon part and an irrational part, etc. The field that psychotrons generate decreased inversely as the square through both space and time. This explains how they seem to see rational structures approaching and effectively head them off at the pass. It also explains how they seem to muck things up before they even happen. There are examples in the miniseries for all these phenomena.

Here are some examples of the psychotronic field in action:

A cop, Joe miller, on a routine homicide investigation discovers the key. He is a level-headed, honest, rational man who will almost certainly turn the key over to a government agency who will study it and discover its properties. However, in the process of his investigation, his daughter is kidnapped and he is accused of murder so that he can never report his discovery.

A philosophy professor named Howard Montague and an engineer named Wally Jabrowski would eventually work together to form a comprehensive theory of physics that included, as part of their explanation, the existence of psychotrons. They were preemptively stopped from doing this. Their careers were both wrecked and they became totally obsessed with petty ambitions.

A math instructor from the Seattle area forms a theory of everything that includes the existence of psychotrons. No one takes him seriously because he seems to have gotten the idea from a fantasy miniseries. Before he gets a chance to reformulate his theory in a more convincing form, he discovers an umbrella that causes people to think they know him and ends up marrying a supermodel. His time is so consumed by passion for her that he quickly forgets about all intellectual pursuits.

A secretary who is content in her work and happy with her life inherits a pair of scissors that she is told have the magical power to rotate things. She falls in love with the scissors and remains in love with them even though as she continues to use them her life gets worse and worse and she ends up as a drug dealer.

As you can see, irrationality can take many forms. It seems clear that the objects must make their owners fall in love with them and simultaneously ruin their lives. This, of course, is the most irrational of all possible relationships, yet one that many of us find ourselves in.


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That makes so much sense it takes your breath away.

THAT is the best theory I have read yet by far ! You put some serious thought into that Spike !!


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It was only because of the input from DaveIII. Somehow, he got my mind going in the right direction so that all of this suddenly popped out. I had a Bob Dylan moment.

Thanks Dave!
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MORE ON PSYCHOTRONIC FIELD THEORY

How Eddie was actually transformed into an object.
Eddie had been transforming into an object for his entire life. The material that his mother ingested to form the first permanent components of his body contained psychotrons, the food he ate growing up contained psychotrons, and the food he ingested during his last days as an ordinary person contained psychotrons. However, it was impossible for him to transform into an object because of the fresh water that kept circulating though his system. When he checked into the Sunshine Motel and took a shower, the last psychotrons that were necessary to transform him came into the room through the shower nozzle. As psychotronic water poured onto him it exchanged places molecule for molecule with the water in his system. This was done with ordinary quantum principles guided by the irrationality of the growing psychotronic field. The non-psychotronic water that changed places with the psychotronic water simply went down the drain and out of the room. This exchange of water was the result of the psychotronic field’s natural tendency to attract psychotrons and repel rationality.

How the event transformed the room and what became of it.
By the time of the event, everything in the room was psychotronic except the photon particles in the light. Even the lumber used to build the room was psychotronic. When the fateful Polaroid was taken that provided the final psychotrons necessary to cause critical irrationality and the event, the room became fully psychotronic and something extremely irrational happened. The room was knocked out of our universe and into irrational space. Similar to how the psychotrons originally created our universe, they now created a universe of Sunshine Motel room 10’s. This new universe consisted of an infinite number of room 10’s all stacked together like bricks extending to infinity in every direction. The psychotrons did not reproduce in order to create these additional rooms. The same psychotrons that formed the room continually cycle through time so that every room 10 is composed of the same collection of psychotrons. This duplication of rooms was necessary so that the space in and around the room would be fully psychotronic and thus neutralize the effect of the psychotrons. Since all psychotrons are pulled equally in every direction by the forces of irrationality, they no longer cling together as objects while in the room and they no longer exhibit their apparent powers. This is the reason why the objects do not work in room 10.

When the key is used, a door into our universe is opened. During this time the psychotronic air in the room is allowed to pass out of the room and ordinary air is allowed to pass in. However, as this happens, the air coming into the room exchanges places with the air going out so that the air in the room remains fully psychotronic.

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As with the shower water described earlier, this is the result of ordinary quantum properties guided by the irrationality of the psychotrons. The psychotronic field works at the threshold of the door when it is opened because there is no psychotronic field outside to counter it.

How the field generated by objects actually draws psychotrons and irrationality together.
The psychotronic field does not distort space as gravity does. Instead, it causes irrational events to occur that attract other irrational events and psychotrons. This is a very dynamic process. Since the psychotronic field extends forward and backward through time, its relationship with the events around it often seems quite complex and even symbiotic. For example, even though the Sood and Suzie Kang seem to have thriving rationally organized businesses that depend on their awareness of the objects, their businesses do not exist for their own purposes. Actually both of these proprietors provide a “service” for the psychotrons. By providing ready information to object seekers they keep the objects circulating so that they have more opportunity to move together. Of note, the objects in the vault were only put back into circulation because the Sood provided information to Joe Miller. It is important to realize that the businesses the Sood and Suzie Kang have organized are not particularly rational. Neither the Sood nor Suzie are very interested in actually understanding the objects—only making money—and neither proprietor is particularly happy or gregarious. The Sood sits alone in his office all day and Suzie sits in the back of a drycleaner.

More on the physics of psychotrons later.


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I don't think it is that odd that we've seen no govt conspiracy regarding the objects, and I rather enjoyed the absence of that aspect (love it but it's been done to death). We've seen the obsessional behaviour set in extremely quickly - I'd imagine any govt personnel who ran across them would be so personally invested as to be unwilling to share or inform.
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B4tg1rl wrote:

I don't think it is that odd that we've seen no govt conspiracy regarding the objects...



It seems like the objects would end up either on the cover of the New York Times or in a top-secret lab. Do you suppose their anonymity was for narrative purposes? I would assume that, except for Joe’s incredulity at learning there are about 100 of them.
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WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE CONROY EXPERIMENT
Room 10 is an object. Like other objects, it has its own properties that are activated by specific stimuli. Like all objects, room 10 generates a field of irrational energy that is absolute throughout the volume of the object and tapers off markedly at the boundary. The boundary of room 10 is the paint on the walls. However, because room 10 is sealed and contains air composed of psychotronically based oxygen molecules, the field within room 10 is unusually strong. As noted before, when the doorway of room 10 is opened, an unstable configuration is formed. The space inside the room has an unusually strong psychotronic field but the space just beyond has almost none at all. Hence, when air attempts to pass into or out of the room it is swapped so that the air inside remains psychotronic.

When objects are placed in the doorway while it is being opened, the instability of the field is magnified. The objects create something of a lensing effect. This lensing effect results in three phenomena. First, it causes the objects, through the imbalance of irrationality, to be drawn into the room. Second, it amplifies the irrational field generated by the objects, and third, it results in new kinds of behavior for all the objects involved.

A good example of this phenomenon was the Conroy experiment. When Barbara Conroy and the Collectors placed a large group of objects on the door of room 9 and opened it, two things happened. The imbalance in the field forced the objects, through ordinary quantum principles, to be “blinked” into the room. They also caused Conroy to be blinked out of ordinary space and time and begin a process of cycling through the different incarnations of room 10. Since the door that was opened into room 10 was also the door of room 9, her cycling includes the entirely terrestrial room 9.

HOW DID JOE AND JENNIFER BRING CONROY BACK
The comb causes rational objects to speed up. When Joe used it in room 9, he was able to speed up and capture Barbara Conroy in one of her cycles. One of the problems with her cycling, however, was that it was nonlinear. She did not cycle all together as a single entity and she was not in one place at one time. By using the box that dampens entropy, Joe was able to make her cycling linear. In this way, he was able to observe her in one place. Once Barbara Conroy was simplified in this way, she died an ordinary death that resulted from the disruption in her system caused by an imperfect restoration of her linearity. However, once she died, she was no longer the same body of matter that was originally caught up by the experiment, so the cycles ceased and she lay dead on the floor of room 9 after the accelerating effect of the comb ended.

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OBJECTS IN ROOM 10 AFTER JOE SHOT EDDIE
When an object is destroyed, its psychotronic field is momentarily liberated while it finds a new host. This brief moment of liberation results in a temporary upsurge in the pshchotronic effect that can be described as a pulse.

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When Joe shot Eddie, the exchange of particles in his body with those in Eddie’s caused a psychotronic pulse. This pulse in the sealed room created an instability that had the same effect on the objects that the door experiment did, except that this time the instability had the opposite orientation and propelled the objects out of the room. They simply blinked out of room 10 and landed in various irrationally selected locations around the world.


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Well. After being hit with that theory, my pitiful one where "the night before" Eddie was down at the local Red Rock Saloon chatting up a Navajo Elder who reveals to him special knowledge of the Grandfathers and the origin of Life happening through a vortex such as believed to be in Sedona, and the Navajo Elder provides the Flask containing the firewater....Eddie drinks it all, using the shot glass, and has an Altered State sort of Event...just pales in comparison so eh.

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