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How far is the motel from the abandoned farmhouse?


How far is the motel from the abandoned farmhouse in the story (not the actual shooting locations)?

From the farmhouse, I recall Joe walking to the diner, but from the motel, there doesn't seem to be anything in sight up or down the road.

The reason I ask is this: another thread on this board got into detectiving what Eddie was doing in the room with the Life Magazine and the Magnafying Glass, etc. and that got me thinking about what happened prior to the motel check-in, and Eddie's bus ticket goes to the farmhouse, so I'm surmising that he likely went there first. The bus station doesn't seem to be too far away (according to the waitress in the diner and the "This is not Hell" sign) so he must have specifically asked to be let off at the farmhouse rather than disembarking at the station and walking back to the farmhouse.

I'm theorizing that he and Mabel the Librarian lived there.
I think he brought her there from Kansas upon marrying her.
Eddie comes home on the bus, then maybe they fight?
He goes to the motel with only one set of clothes, just to spend that night.
The Event blinks him from history, so Mabel never moved to New Mexico to be with him and back-to-the-future vanishes back to Kansas where she would have been had Eddie not relocated her to his farm.
 
That's why Eddie's farmhouse has been abandoned, ever since he checked himself into the asylum. (Do we know what year that was?) Presumably after the Conroy Experiment or possibly ever since the event, but I suspect that Eddie left the motel room between the Event and the Conroy exp (or nobody would have learned so much about the objects. I mean, who risks eating a magic quarter?)

But after whatever happened at the farmhouse (say, Eddie comes home from war after being presumed KIA, to find mabel with another man?) I'm curious how far he had to travel to get to the motel, or if it is so far a distance that it would be unlikely for him to make it there from the farmhouse while carrying the Suitcase.

I figured if anyone would know, it's you sharp lot!

Thanks so much!
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Hi, and welcome to the Collectors

The motel is located about 5-10 minutes walk from the farmhouse near the Bus ticket location.

Interesting theory about moving Mabel to New Mexico.
That is just one thing we cannot spekulate without Chris's, Paul's or Laura's input.

Although I doubt it. Why to spend a night at the motel so close to home? Unless Mabel kicked him out... and she does not seem that temperamentic to me.

Also Eddie's packages are too well coordinated to be packed in haste



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I haven't yet figured out "why" he'd go to the motel after the farmhouse... but I'm fairly convinced that he did.

Maybe he was planning to buy the farm... house.

Perhaps he was planning to take the bus back to the train station in Willowbrook the next day, to go back to Kansas?
Otherwise, there would be no need for him to have the Coat in New Mexico at that time of year. Same probably goes for the Umbrella.

Also, the Bus Ticket says that when his trip is complete, he is supposed to forfeit the Ticket to the bus operator. He still has the Ticket in time for the event, so his trip was not complete.

He also had the Train Timetable for a train that goes between New Mexico and Kansas. Mabel must still have been in Kansas, and not at the Farmhouse.

But, as far as I know, including the Coat, he only had the one outfit (including only one pair of socks), so I doubt he planned to stay away from home for very long.

So the Suitcase just contained a handful of other objects, but not clothes? I picture him clumsily carrying the Suitcase, the Umbrella, and the Typewriter down the road like Steve Martin in "The Jerk"

The Suitcase, however, would be pretty empty if you look at what else he took with him to the motel (mostly stuff for surveilance or to pass time during surveilance?)
Binoculars, Camera, Flashlight, Gum, Cigarettes, Flask, Deck of Cards, Harmonica, Magazine & Magnifyer, various toiletries, an Iron and a freaking 5x7 Wedding Photo. Who carries that around two years after the wedding as opposed to a wallet-sized? This definitely involves Mabel, and Eddie may have known he would not see her again.

 Is it remotely possible that he knew of the upcoming Event, and that he would need something to collect the Objects in, including hotel items (towel, etc) and brought the Suitcase for that purpose?

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He goes to the motel with only one set of clothes, just to spend that night.



That would seem odd to take only one set of clothes.

But what if he brought MORE clothes and spent several days/nights at the Motel. At some point, he would have to launder all his clothes except what he was wearing.

The clothes were out of the room during the EVENT.

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Is one of the objects a dry cleaning voucher or laundromat receipt? Do we know the actual contents of The Wallet?

I could almost buy the idea of his clothes being out for cleaning, considering there is a lot of "pocket junk" around, like Coins, Pocket Knife, Lighter, etc. which I would assume would otherwise have been in his pocket at the time of the Event...
BUT
What about the Cigarette Butt in the Ashtray? The Cigarette Pack appears unopened. There is not an empty cigarette pack in the garbage that I've heard of... have any of you detective types examined the Cigarette Butt to see if it is the same brand as the Pack? If someone gave him the cigarette before he entered the Room, I doubt that he would have been there for days without smoking any more, as most smokers (particularly back then) smoke at least one per day. The Cigarette Pack does not appear to be light or reduced tar smokes. They are probably filtered, but still full strength, and most full strength smokers do not limit themselves to one cigarette per day, let alone per week or however long he may have been there waiting for his laundry.

That raises another quick question: If the Occupant is wearing, say, the Dress Shirt during the event, and someone now throws that Shirt into the Room and resets it, is the shirt hanging in the air near the window, in the shape of the Occupant? (possibly with a Glass Eye floating a foot or so above it?) That is now freaking me out.

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Is one of the objects a dry cleaning voucher or laundromat receipt?



could have had a washer/dryer on site for customer use only.

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What about the Cigarette Butt in the Ashtray?



If they do the maid service thing at noon, and the event is at 1:20, there might be only one butt. The last one of the previously opened pack. The opened pack might even be in the garbage of where he's washing his clothes.

And he smoked his last cigarette on the way back to the room.

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Good theories and good answers from Jin.

I´d buy the laundry thing, the pocket stuff out of his pocket makes sense. Although we do not know if some of the Objects are still inside the Suitcase. We have theorized before Eddie might have had an identity crisis after the Event. Destroying his identity-things might include the Suitcase, especially if the Suitcase had his name engraved on it.

Also maid service at noon seems plausible. Maybe the maid took his clothes too? Although it was just a motel, I doubt there was such service.

What comes to the wedding picture, you are right Bes, that is a cumbersome thing to carry around. Why would he... ah speculations! Maybe his eyesight was that poor, he travels with a magnifying glass you know, and wears glasses.

We know the key reseted itself at the floor of the Room (end of series) it is possible the shirt and the eye just fall on the floor on the spot.

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@Catt
I like the idea that the Wedding Photo is so big because of his poor eyesight. I mean, one eye, and Glasses to boot? AND a Magnifyer? I think we now know why Eddie was staring so hard out the window. His eyesight is so poor that even if something was right out there, he probably could barely see it well enough to identify. That might also explain why he doesn't know what happened during the Event; it probably happened right in front of him, but his eyesight was too poor to see it.

I think the Key reset itself in the middle of the floor at the end because that's where the Occupant (Joe) tossed it on the ground before shutting the door. I believe that the Occupant can change the location of items in the Room. It seems strange that more Objects hadn't been relocated by Eddie in all that time (not counting the asylum years when he wasn't there, of course) but perhaps from 1961-1966.

@Jin
I'm not 100% sure about that laundry yet, though it is plausible, but I will buy the "maid service" explanation, that Gus could have emptied the ashtray and garbage can at noon, removing the previous 19 butts and the thrown away empty cigarette pack. Nice one!
Also supporting the noon maid service argument is the recently-made bed and fresh mirror fingerprint. I had previously been considering that as evidence that Eddie might have only been in the room a short time.
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The poor eyesight leaves us only one dilemma... what was he doing with the small-fonted typewriter?

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The poor eyesight leaves us only one dilemma... what was he doing with the small-fonted typewriter?


Preparing to plagiarize a story from Life Magazine.

Besides the small-fonted typewriter, he also had the Newspaper, the Train Timetable, and the Bus Ticket, all with small print.

Maybe that's why he didn't give the Bus Ticket to the bus operator per the ticket's instructions: the font was so small, Eddie could only have read it with the Binoculars.
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