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I've just noticed that the Collectors set of photos has one or two missing from the sequence, if compared to The Sood's set on display. One or two where they've all turned to camera. Jess do you have them?

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I do not....Actually I had stepped into the photo shoot and snapped a few pics while working.
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I think the "radio" could be a dictaphone

see this 1960 model

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I think Eddie was a travelling reporter... that would also mean he had a hat with a press-card...

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Thanks Jess, no worries. emoticon

That dictaphone is way too big, if you compare the item's scale to the watch box and clock its not that much bigger. Also look at the scale of the cream white jack plug, the radio is a small hand sized type. The jack plug and wire will for certain lead to one of these:
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A mono earphone.

With the well used card deck and the pocket transistor radio, maybe Eddie was a betting man.


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everyone is forgetting something important here......dampening entropy means things no longer decay so the coffee would get cold...that is simply heat transfer....but their food would never go bad...you could sit at the table all day long..in the heat...and nothing would spoil ever ! also everyone at the table would not age while in the radius of effect.....so while at the table...they are immortal....but once they get up and leave....they all age again.



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy

"In thermodynamics (a branch of physics), entropy, symbolized by S,[3] is a measure of the unavailability of a system’s energy to do work.[4][5] It is a measure of the disorder of molecules in a system, and is central to the second law of thermodynamics and to the fundamental thermodynamic relation, both of which deal with physical processes and whether they occur unexpectedly. Spontaneous changes in isolated systems occur with an increase in entropy. Unexpected changes tend to average out differences in temperature, pressure, density, and chemical potential that may exist in a system, and entropy is thus a measure of how great the unexpected changes are."


Susan Kang used the word decay to make it easier to Joe... this is a hard consept, but what I understand entropy is the state of chaos in molecular level, which makes objects to change state (constantly). So dampens entropy would mean changes in object's status would happen slower.. all changes.


What comes to the dictophone, the pic I sent is merely an idea of the thing, I did not mean that was the dictaphone I belive is on the table. I saw quite small dictaphones from late sixties too.. and we do not know if the casette in this pic is regular C or smaller. This one is a table-top. Ofcourse Eddie would have had a portable one with him.

And the portable ones have earplugs. emoticon

Just to maintain open mind here, we do not know if it is a radio, dictaphone or just a piece of cutlery misunderstood as an Object.

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It could be a hearing aid, but I seriously doubt it's just a cutlery mirage, my visual attention to the slightest pixel detail is too refined to make such a silly error. I've been a digital artist since 1979, graphic artist, commercial artist, draughtsman, design conceptualist and dabbled in organic fluid-dynamic aero design in F1 amongst other things. My eyes are visually house trained. emoticon

The compact cassette tape was invented in 1962, introduced to Europe in 1963 and the US in 1964. The microcassette came out much later in 1969. The only cassette tape out at the right time was the RCA Sound Tape Cartridge of 1958 and this is a monster 5" x 7" x 1/2" and bigger than the object on the table not including it's player.
http://www.videointerchange.com/audio_history.htm

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Oh me too! Studied arts and crafts for six years and been doing digital crafts, websites and 3D movies last four years.

My problem is I know Europe well, but not much about US vintage items.

I am sorry Rollerball if you feel like I doubted your spotting ability, that is not what I meant. And the word "cutlery" was in meaning "something else that we have no clue about"

Such an odd shaped piece, but I do see the wire.

I guess we will never know, unless someone ask Chris, Paul or Steven if that thing is an Object.

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One of the guys I am working with....his girlfriend was the on-set propmaster, I will try to get with her and have her look at the photos.
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Thanks Jess that'd be perfect. emoticon

Don't get me wrong Cattrina I wasn't having a go, just explaining the way my mind works, I'm extremely visual to the point it drives me mad at times. My mind wouldn't allow me to mistake a cup or spoon for a wired box object. One pixel out of place, one minute blemish on a photo and it bugs the hell out of me until I remove it or change it. Visual puzzles like this drive me insane until I find a perfect match. I'm like Monk in many ways LOL. It can get extremely frustrating at times at just how anal my perfectionism can get, haunting me well into the night and through sleep. Sorry if my personal self frustration came across but it wasn't meant or ill intended. emoticon

I love art it's fantastic in whatever form it takes, it's my eye candy of the soul, the more it feeds my visual cortex the better. I'm a photon addict you could say, I adore the pretty pretty. I've done most things art wise, computer gaming graphics, sprite animation, coding, writing, 3D modelling, web animation and coding, but art is my foundation. I'm into artistic crafts too, love ceramics and glass, anything really, there's far too much to choose from. I guess it runs in the family genes, my father is a history of art professor, my cousin likewise though specialized in ceramics and two of his kids are in art college studying art and photography. Our paternal ancestors were sculptors and dealt in marble statuary. The world will always need accountants and artists, not necessarily in that order. emoticon

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