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Re: The Suitcase Found !!!!!


I saw that when it came up for auction but once again I did not post it due to it not being 100% paulian.

Lately I feel that posting semipaulian or less Objects seems to generate no [sign in to see URL] a waste of time.


Am I wrong ?? should we post Objects that are semi or less ??


[sign in to see URL] suitcase is EXACTLY like mine in every [sign in to see URL] is a nice suitcase to [sign in to see URL], heavy duty and solid !


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I think that close objects are news. They show what is available and may be of some help to someone. Also, they show what search criteria seems to be working. Finally, posting close objects gives us a way of reporting our search experience. It lets people know we are looking.

A good example is the mirrored tray. It was only after X found the mirrored tray that people started searching in earnest for the tray and Dis found the non mirrored one. Another example is the Campho Phenique tins. If I had never seen any tins similar to the paulian one, I might think we have no chance of finding the correct one. Now that I have seen two close matches, I am considerably more confident.

When I see a close object that is merely interesting, I post it in the appropriate thread. When I see a close object that may be mistaken for the paulian one and end up costing someone some money, I post it in the Object Warning thread. That is my policy. You may, of course, adopt your own.

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here is one with the right color, maker and the right hardware...

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Now we know it does [sign in to see URL] suitcase is approx 21"(22") (see post below)

I will make some measurements when I get home to double check on this (see post below).....it is hopefully correct and I dropped a bid on it...


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That’s valuable in other ways. We have positively confirmed the brand. We can learn a lot from this listing.

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[sign in to see URL] is the measurements and how I came to them.

the lightswitch cover above the suitcase is approx 2.5" [sign in to see URL] came to this by measuring covers throughout my house and [sign in to see URL] were all 2.5" wide.

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That makes the slat it is screwed into approx 4.5" [sign in to see URL] is about 1" on either side of the cover.

There are 4 slats behind the suitcase which if you add it up 4.5" X 4 = 18" and there is about 1" sticking past on the side closest to the camera and 1.5" on the backside sticking out for a total of approx 20.5" which makes the suitcase that is 21X18X9 pretty much dead [sign in to see URL] I dropped a bid on it.

Well that [sign in to see URL] think this is the 100% correct case BUT I have been very wrong before and will be wrong [sign in to see URL] I just cannot let it go by.


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how do your measurements of the suitcase compare with the luggage stand that it sits on?

either my luggage stand is too big or the ebay suitcase is too small

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Have you taken into account, that the modern switch covers are wider, than the old vintage ones? I have no idea which one they used making the set.

Also note there are 5 slats behind the case emoticon

It is also possible to determine the width of the wood planks, there are few possible widths. We in Finland have the standards for 6 8 and 10 cms with the gap. 10 being the only width 20 years ago and earlier.

Boards come in widths of between 3 and 10 inches and may have either square, tongue-and-groove, or shiplap edges.

If the switch cover is 2,5, then the panel might not be 3 inches wide (not sure if that includes the gap)

the actual size of a 3 is actually 2,5...
which would make the suitcase 12,5 inch wide (5 x 2,5)... which is ridiculos

which makes another regular board size a 4 to actually be 3,5 inches wide 5 x 3,5 = 17,5 which is not much better.

you suggested the slats to be 4,5, 5 x 4,5 = 22,5 inches

plausible... although a slat width 4,5 is not standard. The next standard size after 4 is a 6, which makes it 5,5 in reality 5 x 5,5 = 27,5 which to me is more realistic size for a suitcase since sizes 26" and 28" were the most common sizes back then.

It COULD be a 22,5, 24, 26 or 28" case. 21 just sounds tiny to me.


putting two switch covers side-by-side the other one goes about half-way over the slat, so assuming the cover is 2,5... then the slat is actually closer to the 4 than 6.

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This image shows the resembling size. It looks like the suitcase stand + suitcase is equal height than the dresser...

The suitcase looks WAY larger than 21" ...


The luggage-stand is twice the height as the suitcase is thick... so 3 x suitcase thickness = height of the drawer.

If the drawer is standard-heigh, which would be about 28 iches (comparing to the bed sit-height, sidetables and the phone) that would make the suitcase thickness about 8 inches...

we know the width of the suitcase is a lot more than twice the thickness of it, so that would witness towards the larger end.

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how do your measurements of the suitcase compare with the luggage stand that it sits on? either my luggage stand is too big or the ebay suitcase is too small



I think the luggage stand is [sign in to see URL] semipaulian suitcase is 24X18X9 and it looks big on the [sign in to see URL] suitcase in question is 3" smaller on the length and I am pretty sure they made sure it was placed right to the edge of the stand closest to the room and camera.


[sign in to see URL] are only 4 slats behind the [sign in to see URL] is overlap towards the room by about 1" to 1.5" but on the otherside it appears to stick out about 2" to 3" into the "5th" [sign in to see URL] say it is an optical illusion due to the angle of the pic, case and wall. I would bet that if you stood directly in front of the case it would be centered to the four slats with about 1" of case sticking out past on either side.

As for the switch [sign in to see URL] ones here at work are over 50yrs old and they are 2 3/4" which still if you add the 1" to either side makes a slat of 4 3/4" which X 4 = 19"...now if you add the approx 1" from the overhang on either side equals approx 21".

I always thought my semipaulian case looked too long and it is 24".

if the slats are 6" tongue & groove that makes their true size 5.5" minus the 1/2" of tongue which is now inside of the closest slat which now makes it 5" X 4 = 20" with the 1" overhang makes a total of 22" and that is close enough to 21" barring errors in measurement by the seller.

this is a tough one to be sure ! I would like to know what sizes Koch made these in which would settle [sign in to see URL] I doubt we will ever find that out. If my case at home is 24" then it seems that they went in 2" increments on [sign in to see URL]"(22"),24",26",28 & 30".

Uggh ! I have a headache now ! lol ! anyone else have a theory ?? we must figure this out ! the time has come.


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Beats me, I work on cms mostly, so inches elude me... with all the partials of inches. emoticon

But what I know about building with slats, you always end up having a gap between the boards, the tongues, as you call it is partially shown. How much, well that is depending on the age of the build, who made the paneling etc...

In here the tongue is not possible to hammer all-way in, it always leaves at least 1 cm "gap".


The angle of the photo is damn sure tough on the eye to tell.

With these pics we are never going to tell. We do not even know if the suitcase is placed in any straight angle towars the wall. Most likely it just is randomly 'thrown' on the stand.

What comes to the light-switch: your switches may be old enough, but did the set-makers use a vintage switch or a modern switch???

Any case, these are the pics we 'have to' work with.

I think we need Rollerball's eye for this

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Most likely it just is randomly 'thrown' on the stand.



Oh I doubt that [sign in to see URL] appears to me they placed The Objects (room furnishings) in specific locations to make it easy for them to make sure all Objects got back into their proper [sign in to see URL] go back to their proper spot upon reset of the room.

As for the lightswitch [sign in to see URL] guess is that they used a standard cover for the [sign in to see URL] covers have not changed much in the last 60-70yrs ....plus prop depts have a budget to [sign in to see URL] usually try to keep it as simple and easy as possible and if something needs to be period correct for a close-up then they will find the proper [sign in to see URL] anything in a passing shot will be somewhat generic but artificially aged to look [sign in to see URL] the Tray for [sign in to see URL] is clearly made NOW and was never made back in the 60'[sign in to see URL] there it is on the dresser.

I wish Jess could give us some info about this.

We do need more input [sign in to see URL] more eyes that tackle this the better.


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