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Possible Uses of The Quarter


The Quarter gives physical form to memories, both living and dead. Not only that, but it seems to manifest inanimate objects as well (the clothing on their bodies). So here's a couple things to ponder:

1. Can it be used to manifest solely inanimate objects?
2. Can it manifest more than one memory at a time?
3. Can it manifest Objects?
4. Can the manifestations use Objects?
5. Here's the kicker. Can it manifest a memory of the user himself?
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or could you manifest someone long dead by looking at a picture of them and then use The Quarter ??

Lincoln ? Kennedy ? Elvis ?




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Interesting, indeed

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2. Can it manifest more than one memory at a time?



It appears NO.

In the vault, Kreutzfeld tells Joe about the quarter, and manifests his son in front of Joe to demonstrate. He then tells Joe it can manifest Living memories as well. Upon saying this, the boy fades out of existence right on screen and the body guard immediately appears behind Joe.

If he's going to attack Joe, he wouldn't waste time making the boy disappear unless that was necessary.

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3. Can it manifest Objects?
4. Can the manifestations use Objects?



3. Unlikely, but unproven.

4. If the manifestation of the boy were that real, Karl could use the eye to heal him. I liken these manifestations to HoloDeck characters from Star Trek. They can interact with real life but they posses no real life themselves. Therefore I do not believe they could use objects.

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I love the work Ender is doing. It is forcing us to look at these properties much closer.
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I love the work Ender is doing. It is forcing us to look at these properties much closer.



yes, some questions may be answerable. I still have to read those two huge posts he left in the other thread...

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Chucklbunny wrote:

or could you manifest someone long dead by looking at a picture of them and then use The Quarter ??

Lincoln ? Kennedy ? Elvis
 



I believe the person brought back would behave as YOU remember them, not as they really were. Think of Gusteau & Remy talking in Ratatouille.

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1. Can it be used to manifest solely inanimate objects?



When Neo is put into Morpheus' simulation the first time after being freed from the Matrix, Neo appears with clothes....but when they want guns, the guns have to be manually input from outside the simulation.

Clothes are part of how we perceive people, unless Chris says otherwise, I would give an opinion that the quarter can only manifest people and clothes that the person remembers them wearing.

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Lincoln ? Kennedy ? Elvis ?



Even the new 3D TV's add layers but do not make the images we see truly 3 Dimensional like we see real people and places.

If you see a 2 dimensional image of Elvis, that's not the same as actually having MET Elvis.

I would tend to say no on this one, but I could be swayed if someone has a better argument.

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